Religion and Spirit Box Communications

[Pine Tree Lady]

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Rich (from [e-mail]) started a conversation asking how our religious beliefs affect what we hear or believe we hear while using a Spirit Box. Great subject!

[mgood86]

If our religious beliefts affect our messages, does that mean a person with a similar belief system will only be the ones to hear what you heard? Rich said something along that line. I wonder if it is that. Does our belief system blind us to others? I feel that in this earthly life it does. How many times have you met someone and when they find out about your belief system, that person slowly fades out of your life? Happens to me all the time.

What do you think?

[Pine Tree Lady]

A book (I think it was called A Journey of Souls) said that we have a special group on the other side much like we do on earth except the group on the other side has known us much longer.

Also it said Spirits tend to hang with other spirits of similar beliefs and interests (is it rude to say 'Duh'? Why hang with folks you don't care for or listen to their beliefs if the greatly differ from your own?)

It IS interesting tho - the part about a group of people listening the same file - some hear the 'yes, I'll wait' and others swear it say 'Jules, there's a quake'.

Hmm..

[mgood86]

I will have to read that book. I have read similar things. Maybe we can get Rich to do his experiment but in a modified way...with notice being given to the different "groups" involved in the answers.

This has me thinking hard!

[janp]

I for one do not believe that religion enters into what different people hear in files. I think the most likey thing to consider is an individual's "hearing range"; i.e., I have particular problems with high-pitched frequencies which can alter what I hear. Others may not be able to distinguish lower frequencies, and so interpret them wrongly or not hear them at all.

There is a whole school of thought out there that some communication is only meant for the person receiving it; thus, others will not hear what the receiver heard. I am a maybe on that, as there are times I would swear to what I am hearing even though no one else hears it as I do.

Recently there was a comment on one of the other forums that some people couldn't hear a file because they weren't on a high enough spiritual level, or some nonsense like that. I can't buy that, for sooo many reasons.

Editing and converting recorded communication can also alter and degrade it, making it difficult to understand. This is a common problem when uploading files. I have read so many times that "the file was so clear until I uploaded it".

You've also got to wonder that if religion did enter into it, then would Mormons be able to hear Baptist's' files, or Jews hear Catholics' files? Just doesn't make good sense to me!

[Pine Tree Lady]

Jan! Yay!

Your post brings up many good points.
When I heard the theory that religion may shape our communications - I took it to mean upbringing - not necessarily JUST religion.

When you think about it - its amazing that as humans we can communicate effectively with one another. When people talk they set off trigger memories in their listener(s). Words also have different meanings to different people.

Someone mentioned spirits quoting scripture. I've never heard any scriptures in my communications. The spirits that I talk to on a daily basis would know (or most would know) that I didn't memorize the Bible. Perhaps the gal hearing scripture talks about verses during her sessions?

They do call out 'Jesus', 'God', 'Heaven', 'angels', etc.. (attaching an angel clip I got last night)
The first time I did a spontaneous prayer for the spirits calling for help - I asked if I did okay. I was told to read 'MATTHEW 19'

I have hearing issues too. It's easier for me to hear harmonic replies. I seem to have a 2-3 second delay from my ear to my brain. Some people can't understand harmonic voices. Which is understandable when you consider the range of radio garbage thrown at us.

I believe we are meant to listen with our heart (spirit) and our ears.

What's interesting is when someone hears a clip completely different and then, 2-3 others will hear it that same way (wrong in our thoughts). But a few will hear it as we did.

Perhaps that is where the religion theory came into play?

What's fascinating to me is that several people can hear the clip wrong but they hear communication. Altho they are not hearing what the original communicator heard - they all hear the same communication. Wouldn't you think the chances would be high that they would hear garbage or a jumbled sentence?

Sorry for the ramble. I shouldn't post messages pre-coffee!

Great to have you with us Jan!

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[rich]

Religion is just the tip of the ice burg. The communication is influenced by ones reference frame.

Try this: post a file with just the answer to your question and see how many folks hear the answer as you did. Wait a day and post the file with the question and note the difference. It will be big. Why?

[Pine Tree Lady]

Try this: post a file with just the answer to your question and see how many folks hear the answer as you did. Wait a day and post the file with the question and note the difference. It will be big. Why?

Read more: pine-tree-lady.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1#ixzz20jLWA4yn

Oh, no! A teaser question - without an answer!

Seriously, I often upload just responses..

[rich]

>>Oh, no! A teaser question - without an answer!

Seriously, I often upload just responses..<<

If one does not know the question or the answer is there communication? Remember that if your file name contains the question or answer Then my question still stands. The next problem is ..Someone responds to the file. now I know what they heard or believe they heard. Can this influence what I think I hear?

Here's my opinion:
Everything in our personal space and what we allow to enter it effects Ghost Box Communication to some degree:

[mgood86]

Jul 16, 2012 6:40:54 GMT -6 rich said:

If one does not know the question or the answer is there communication? Remember that if your file name contains the question or answer Then my question still stands. The next problem is ..Someone responds to the file. now I know what they heard or believe they heard. Can this influence what I think I hear?

This was touched on before and I believe that getting someone elses response can influence what we think we heard. But the question still remains, why can some hear what we hear and others something completely different? Perhaps it is because of the different frequencies our ears are able to utilize. But on one hand, what does our soul energy do with our brains functions to hear the answers? Sorry, rambling, I just woke up and was excited to see other's opinons besides my own! Let's do some experimenting!

[Pine Tree Lady]

A friend, who is somewhat intuitive, recently said she is conflicted by her Christian faith and her spirituality. I asked why and her reply was that she believes in Jesus Christ and that he saved us all.

[Pine Tree Lady]

I find it extremely frustrating when communication clips begin to fade. Because I know, that once they begin to fade - chances are, they will disappear completely.

Those messages, I believe are for the communicator's ears only.

Also, at times during sessions, I believe we hear responses that our recorders do not pick up.

Lots of 'I believes' but truth is, we just don't know for sure.

[Pine Tree Lady]

I am and have always been a Spiritual person. Non religious.

I was raised Catholic but moved away from it for many reasons.

One thing I took from the Catholic church was that the Bible is mostly crap. Stories passed down, re-written, reworded by Monks who had no communication with the outside world. Thus, pretty useless.

I've read many parts of the New Testament over the years and didn't understand most of what I read. Catholics are told to read the Bible and the Holy Spirit will help interpret it for you.

I also had a mistaken belief that Jesus Christ was a good guy who came and tried to change the world. Sure, he was God's son - just as you and I are children of God. No more. No less.
Oh, Baby! I couldn't have been more wrong.

Jesus is the real deal! The TRUE son of God and Our Savior. 'Because God so loved us - he sent his only begotten son'

My understandings and misunderstandings were created by the Catholic church's 'Do as I Say, Not as I Do' attitude. By their failure to answer questions. By the gross wealth spent on building/decorating the church.

So, what's a confused, ex-Catholic, spiritual girl to do when her beliefs are thrown in her face?

I got a Bible. And then, another. And another. I now own 6 different Bibles. Why would anyone buy six different Bibles? My spirit guide made me do it. I can look at the same verses from each Bible and see how they have been changed and re-worded. Not to confuse me. The opposite. So I can truly understand what God wants me to understand.

May God Bless us all.

[Pine Tree Lady]

knock knock..

Avon?

No. Its only heaven.

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[mgood86]

I concur with Rich. His one clip of an EVP on a GB file most hear Ghost Place, I have always heard Ghost Story, but once I saw what others heard, I was able to hear it as well. I can hear both.